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Influence under new Eval Beta

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How is influence distributed for voting/suggesting if at all? What about collaboration influence?

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Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:20

Great question! Check out this new blog post about changes to voting influence. Additional tools for collaboration will be pushed out in the future. One step at a time!

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stazy October 11, 2011 00:03

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Alice October 11, 2011 00:08

Yes, I wonder about this too, Imants. I like the name "Eva Beta"

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- Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:21
  
  I liked "Eva Beta" too, made me think of Wall-E! But I had to change it to make it searchable for more community members. :)
  
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Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:20

Great question! Check out this new blog post about changes to voting influence. Additional tools for collaboration will be pushed out in the future. One step at a time!

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- Imants October 11, 2011 00:27
  
  Thank you Shirley! But when will the clock stop for voting? On Mondays @noon?
  
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- Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:40
  
  No stopping, eval will constantly be open. Each idea has 30 days from when it's submitted. You have unlimited votes, but they will still be weighted based on how many votes you've cast in the last 7 days.
  
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- Alessandra Macedo October 11, 2011 00:45
  
  we have to run to vote then...
  
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- Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 01:02
  
  :) No running either! Just think of this as a nice, even stream of ideas every day. Instead of the big flood we used to get once a week. Now, you can pace yourself according to your own schedule.
  
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- JerryMaguire October 11, 2011 04:34
  
  Beautifully expressed.
  
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- urbenz October 12, 2011 03:37
  
  Nice!
  
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Great question! Check out this <a href="http://aquirkyblog.com/2011/10/voting-influence-rating-changes/">new blog post</a> about changes to voting influence. Additional tools for collaboration will be pushed out in the future. One step at a time!

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stan modelewski October 11, 2011 00:21

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- Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:40
  
  Ring, ring! Did you get the answers you needed, Stan?
  
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J. Andre. October 11, 2011 00:32

so if ideas are "live" for 30 days, i only need to stop in once a month... LOL.
except if i do that, then i 'might' vote for too many ideas and i'll get less influence because my weekly average will be too high??
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i clearly don't understand the system yet. (but i'm hoping shirley will explain it to me)
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i'm confused about how influence is "averaged". i would think that the system would be simpler (and thus more scale-able) you either voted for something... or you didn't.

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- Shirley Chan October 11, 2011 00:39
  
  Hi J, didja miss me? :)
  
  Ideas can be moved into Under Consideration at any time within their 30 days. People now get influence for voting for an idea that enters that Consideration phase. So you might miss out if you only check in once a month.
  
  One strategy (if you're truly addicted) would be to log on a little bit every day. Check out the Newest ideas and see what you think. That way, it's manageable.
  
  Give it some time & share your own tips though. It's new, so there's bound to be a learning curve!
  
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- UNO October 11, 2011 01:03
  
  Sadly it also sounds like we may miss out if we only stop in once every couple days......will there be a 3-4 day time period at least before something it pulled into consideration? Maybe even better 7 days like before and we could search for things we have not viewed yet?
  
  Nice job on the changes as well. From what I see here so far it's the base of a nice start. If it turns out to be a solid foundation expect to see lots of ideas flowing in from me.
  
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- J. Andre. October 11, 2011 01:11
  
  >>> didja miss me?
  very much so!
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  i'm totally willing to give it a chance. i'm just trying to digest the logic of the 7 day average for ideas that will stay up for possibly 4 weeks.
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  it might make more sense to give people more influence multiplied by the day they voted for it. if you vote for an idea in it's first day, you get more influence that in the 29th or 30th day.
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so if ideas are "live" for 30 days, i only need to stop in once a month... LOL. except if i do that, then i 'might' vote for too many ideas and i'll get less influence because my weekly average will be too high?? . i clearly don't understand the system yet. (but i'm hoping shirley will explain it to me) . i'm confused about how influence is "averaged". i would think that the system would be simpler (and thus more scale-able) you either voted for something... or you didn't.

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Matthew Fleming October 11, 2011 03:09

It states "People will now receive influence if an idea they voted for moves into “Under Consideration”.
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Does this mean that people will only cash in influence for that idea if that "under consideration" idea then wins?
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Or does it also mean that other influence is received even if that idea doesn't win (e.g. the influence will come from elsewhere)?

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- JerryMaguire October 11, 2011 04:36
  
  My guess is that Influence lives or dies with the product, as with an item in Presale limbo.
  
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It states "People will now receive influence if an idea they voted for moves into “Under Consideration”. . Does this mean that people will only cash in influence for that idea if that "under consideration" idea then wins? . Or does it also mean that other influence is received even if that idea doesn't win (e.g. the influence will come from elsewhere)?

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J. Andre. October 11, 2011 03:16

i think “Under Consideration” is now the equivalent to the "top 5"; except now there is no time limit as to how long something can sit there.
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Q could hold things there for months if they wanted, and you wouldn't be able to take your IP somewhere else. It's purgatory/jail for ideas. LOL

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i think “Under Consideration” is now the equivalent to the "top 5"; except now there is no time limit as to how long something can sit there. . Q could hold things there for months if they wanted, and you wouldn't be able to take your IP somewhere else. It's purgatory/jail for ideas. LOL

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